Bad English

I love this CD I had it on tape in high school ... reminds me of my young and single days. I love John Waite and prefer soft rock.

What happens when Journey meets The Babys? A "new" supergroup consisting of ex-Babys John Waite, Jonathon Cain, and Ricky Phillips, who combine with ex-Journey guitarist Neal Schon and little-known drummer Deen Castronovo to produce the quintessential power ballad band. Not that there's anything wrong with that in this case - I still have both BE albums in rotation. Waite and Cain continue their songwriting collaborations from their Babys days, with Schon contributing on many of the tracks on the album. The combination of writers seems to be the key that keeps the band from sounding too much like either The Babys or Journey, but ironically enough their best-known single "When I See You Smile" was written by an external songwriter. The album is produced by Richie Zito so the production quality is slick, albiet pretty typical `80s style with big drums. The one exception is the single, which sounds like it was produced to sound the best being broadcast by an AM radio station through a 4" speaker, which, if I know the industry, it likely was.

This is an album that will likey satisfy most Babys and John Waite fans, and may even attract a few more who found The Babys a little too light. Both Bad English albums are comparable in quality and content with the second being maybe a bit harder, but they're both good enough.

Yes yes we all know the mega hit When I See You Smile. But it would be unfair to put this album into the one hit wonder basket and instead review it as a whole.

The band hits gear pretty early with Best of What I Got but after that it's pretty bad. How Possession ever became a hit I've not idea. Well, where I come from it didn't, but in the US this mob had a string of soppy power ballad hits.

The production is good but the fire goes out for most of the album. Neil Schon is a great guitarist but it was the late 80's and the guy obviously knew what he had to do for a decent paycheck. Besides, he probably wanted some revenge on Steve Perry so he really wanted to make some cash. Pity, listen to some of the guitar licks here and there is a decent hard rock album in the man. Rockin' Horse for example.

An interesting additin to the AOR landscape, and some of the music is lively. But when the whole thing has as much heft as a lettuce leaf it just doesn't get my vote. Even my devoted AOR fan girlfriend of the time only liked the one track (we all know which one).

But hey, if AOR is your bag you could do a lot worse!

To my surprise in early 1990 I heard the song "When I see you smile" -or WISYS to Waite devotees- coming from the flat above. I had bought the album about 6 months previously and had just assumed that it would be ignored as about 5 Babys and 3 Waite solo albums had been.

Waite sings on all the tracks and says Neal Schon's guitar playing is so good it's hard to believe it's a human being playing!

The band put two albums together and enjoyed touring and playing to stadium sized audiences. Waite had problems with corporate music, as a consequence the band never became a "power" in the music scene.

Bad English's self-titled debut was released in 1989. The band combined the forces of Journey members Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain with ex-Babys lead vocalist John Waite, who was best known for his 1984 hit, "Missing You." Spawning three hit singles as well as several tracks that made the rounds on album-oriented rock radio, the album was a big hit at a time when hard rock and especially power ballads were in vogue. However, like many "supergroups", such as Asia and Damn Yankees, they peaked with their debut album and their subsequent album would lead to their inevitable breakup.

Bad English has a very big production reminiscent of the era and the material presented is strong throughout. The #1 hit "When I See You Smile", with its instantly recognizable keyboard line, is one of the best power ballads of the era, and also one of many written by songwriter extraordinare Diane Warren. The power ballads "Price of Love" and "Possession" were also big hits and are nearly as memorable as "When I You See Smile." The lesser known AOR hits include the solid melodic hard rockers "Forget Me Not", "Heaven Is a 4 Letter Word", and "Best of What I Got." The remaining songs, while not nearly as memorable, are still very good, whether it's the hard rock of "Lay Down" and "Rockin' Horse", the pop-rock of "Tough Times Don't Last" and "The Restless Ones", or the closing ballad "Don't Walk Away." After this album, the band's next album Backlash was met with just that as their sound was falling out of favor to the grunge movement and gangsta rap. However, the band really put it together here and fans of good melodic hard rock will enjoy this.

This is by far the better Bad English cd although little known. Really enjoyed it, diverse as the band was splitting in two different directions. Opening song memorable for the nah, nahs alone. Solid cd.

I have been collecting records and CD's of The Baby, Journey & John Waite. When I first heard about this group I thought it's just one of those experimental albums that most great artists do. The collaboration of ex-Journey Neal Schon, Jonathan Cain and ex-The Baby John Waite is truly amazing. Neal Schon's guitar blend still spells a Journey-ish thing but clean and a bit agressive. John Waite's unique rock voice is really wonderful. Generally, the band is great! I would recommend much to rock fanatics to get this 2nd album of Bad English. It's one star better than their first. Try also Neil Schon & Jonathan Cain's solo albums. Cain's pretty good in New Age genre.

Bad English primary attraction to myself is Neal Schon, one of the truly great guitarists. People mention Journey, but the group and music is not very comparable, except for Neal. Schon is always good, his playing is not over powering like some guitarists, but his solos are impressive, unique and melodic. The rest of the band are accomplished muscicians which makes a very easy on the ears style of rock - comparable more to Toto sound. The only reason I don't give 5 out of 5 is the songwriting - nothing special there.

The only problem with this alblum is that it was released in 1991. By then the new grunge rock had seeped into the MTV brains of the new youth generation and the rock of the 1980s was old news. No one really cared. Except for people, like me, who will always love the music of the 1980s. If you loved Journey and/or the Babys then this is a must buy. It is just as strong as Bad English's first alblum. But, due to it being the 1990s got very little airplay.

While I gave it 5 stars (cause I love Bad English) I have to say that unlike other reviewers, I don't think this CD is better than Bad English's debut. NO SONG can top "Possession" or "Forget Me Not", though "Straight to Your Heart" comes very close. That song, as well as "Pray for Rain" are the only songs that I really like on this entire CD. I think most of the songs sound similiar. Another great group to check out that reminds me a lot of Bad English is "The Storm". Their debut came out in 1991. If you can find it and it is still in print, you really need to get it.

Good day! As of this writing, i still haven't received the product i'd purchased! What should i do? At the "track package", my stock cannot be traced! Help!

Bad English was a band comprised of REAL musicians who knew REAL music. The songs on this CD collection are some of their best, but actually, EVERY song from their two studio albums could be included here! They simply never recorded any filler tunes. And contrary to the "pruduct description", Bad English WAS NOT a hair metal band! Of course, to today's limited musical intelligence ANYBODY who had ANY hair at all is now catagorized as "hair metal". Get this CD and discover what REAL music sounded like before the current pathetic era of the musical dark ages began.

Use logic! John Waite and journey combined! Need I say more?!!!
Brilliant songs, unreal musicans, Waite's vocals = HEAVEN! It would have been nice to put the 2 albums together in their entirity.

The CD has a great selection of songs from the band's heyday, but no notes inside this CD brings it down--there are pictures but no names of the players and no information on each song-what album it came from or whatever--no information on the band either. Usually with a greatest hits album there is some key information the band making the album a better buy. Great sound however as imports usually sound great. Buy this if you are not interested in the makeup of the band or other information.

If you think, like I do, that some of the greatest american songs come from the period 1987-1992, this is an album you must have. The songs WHEN I SEE YOU SMILE and PRICE OF LOVE are really wonderful. I live in Spain and those songs bring me great memories from the years when the show AMERICAN TOP 40 was heard in Spain, and those songs were very popular here. Thanks for giving me the chance to write here.

I love this CD I had it on tape in high school ... reminds me of my young and single days. I love John Waite and prefer soft rock.

What happens when Journey meets The Babys? A "new" supergroup consisting of ex-Babys John Waite, Jonathon Cain, and Ricky Phillips, who combine with ex-Journey guitarist Neal Schon and little-known drummer Deen Castronovo to produce the quintessential power ballad band. Not that there's anything wrong with that in this case - I still have both BE albums in rotation. Waite and Cain continue their songwriting collaborations from their Babys days, with Schon contributing on many of the tracks on the album. The combination of writers seems to be the key that keeps the band from sounding too much like either The Babys or Journey, but ironically enough their best-known single "When I See You Smile" was written by an external songwriter. The album is produced by Richie Zito so the production quality is slick, albiet pretty typical `80s style with big drums. The one exception is the single, which sounds like it was produced to sound the best being broadcast by an AM radio station through a 4" speaker, which, if I know the industry, it likely was.

This is an album that will likey satisfy most Babys and John Waite fans, and may even attract a few more who found The Babys a little too light. Both Bad English albums are comparable in quality and content with the second being maybe a bit harder, but they're both good enough.

Yes yes we all know the mega hit When I See You Smile. But it would be unfair to put this album into the one hit wonder basket and instead review it as a whole.

The band hits gear pretty early with Best of What I Got but after that it's pretty bad. How Possession ever became a hit I've not idea. Well, where I come from it didn't, but in the US this mob had a string of soppy power ballad hits.

The production is good but the fire goes out for most of the album. Neil Schon is a great guitarist but it was the late 80's and the guy obviously knew what he had to do for a decent paycheck. Besides, he probably wanted some revenge on Steve Perry so he really wanted to make some cash. Pity, listen to some of the guitar licks here and there is a decent hard rock album in the man. Rockin' Horse for example.

An interesting additin to the AOR landscape, and some of the music is lively. But when the whole thing has as much heft as a lettuce leaf it just doesn't get my vote. Even my devoted AOR fan girlfriend of the time only liked the one track (we all know which one).

But hey, if AOR is your bag you could do a lot worse!

To my surprise in early 1990 I heard the song "When I see you smile" -or WISYS to Waite devotees- coming from the flat above. I had bought the album about 6 months previously and had just assumed that it would be ignored as about 5 Babys and 3 Waite solo albums had been.

Waite sings on all the tracks and says Neal Schon's guitar playing is so good it's hard to believe it's a human being playing!

The band put two albums together and enjoyed touring and playing to stadium sized audiences. Waite had problems with corporate music, as a consequence the band never became a "power" in the music scene.

Bad English's self-titled debut was released in 1989. The band combined the forces of Journey members Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain with ex-Babys lead vocalist John Waite, who was best known for his 1984 hit, "Missing You." Spawning three hit singles as well as several tracks that made the rounds on album-oriented rock radio, the album was a big hit at a time when hard rock and especially power ballads were in vogue. However, like many "supergroups", such as Asia and Damn Yankees, they peaked with their debut album and their subsequent album would lead to their inevitable breakup.

Bad English has a very big production reminiscent of the era and the material presented is strong throughout. The #1 hit "When I See You Smile", with its instantly recognizable keyboard line, is one of the best power ballads of the era, and also one of many written by songwriter extraordinare Diane Warren. The power ballads "Price of Love" and "Possession" were also big hits and are nearly as memorable as "When I You See Smile." The lesser known AOR hits include the solid melodic hard rockers "Forget Me Not", "Heaven Is a 4 Letter Word", and "Best of What I Got." The remaining songs, while not nearly as memorable, are still very good, whether it's the hard rock of "Lay Down" and "Rockin' Horse", the pop-rock of "Tough Times Don't Last" and "The Restless Ones", or the closing ballad "Don't Walk Away." After this album, the band's next album Backlash was met with just that as their sound was falling out of favor to the grunge movement and gangsta rap. However, the band really put it together here and fans of good melodic hard rock will enjoy this.

Yes,unfortunately the excellent tracks by Madness aren't on the CD. What everyone fails to mention though are the extra tracks that weren't on the original vinyl edition. Nearly the entire, very excellent, "Too Much Too Young" EP by The Specials ( AKA ) is found here. As is another track by The Selecter "Carry Go Bring Come", which also wasn't on the original release. So the CD isn't quite the same without Madness, it's still great. But what do I care as I have both. Now put on your loafers, wingtips,creepers or jack boots and start Moon Stomping!!!!!!!!

The original Dance Craze album introduced me to ska almost 20 years ago. The album changed my life, encouraging me to search out albums from all the bands: The Specials, The Selecter, Madness, Bad Manners, The (English) Beat (sadly, the Bodysnatchers only put out singles, so I couldn't get anything for them in the States). Unlike a great many live albums, this one really communicated the frenetic energy of a live show.

When they re-released this album I was excited to have the opportunity to replace my original worn out copy. While it is still very good, all of the Madness tracks have been removed. I know this is probably a contract issue, but the Madness tunes were some of the best. It leaves a BIG hole in the flow of the album.

Sooo, while this is still a great primer for folks who are new to early 80s British ska, try to track down a copy of the original. Better yet, try to track down a copy of the video. It's got 2-3 times as many songs, and you get to SEE how great the bands were, and how they really got the audiences dancing.

Due to contract problems Madness are not on the CD,Only on the now hard to get record.Still a great CD.Some of the best 2nd wave ska captured on this recording.The movie comes up for sale in scootering mag,s from England now and then ,but to be honest its not very good.Also if you get it from England you will need to change it over to watch it on north American TV,s.I dont think it was ever produced in the American version?Also look for World of SKIN,a great documenty from UK,and Made in Britain [a skinhead film].....HOPE THIS HELPS

This CD contains some of the best of British Ska, or at least some of the best Ska bands recorded on 2 Tone. It's hard to beat live versions of some of these classics, and in fact, songs like Concrete Jungle (the Specials) and Mirror in the Bathroom (the English Beat) on this CD are superior to their studio counterparts. This is a wonderful sampler and a must-have for any Ska fan.

I bought this album way back in the day and wanted to have it on CD, but it's missing MADNESS!! I'm glad I still have the original album and the video! Dance Craze is still a good CD because you can't get a better compilation of British SKA than this.

I love this CD I had it on tape in high school ... reminds me of my young and single days. I love John Waite and prefer soft rock.

What happens when Journey meets The Babys? A "new" supergroup consisting of ex-Babys John Waite, Jonathon Cain, and Ricky Phillips, who combine with ex-Journey guitarist Neal Schon and little-known drummer Deen Castronovo to produce the quintessential power ballad band. Not that there's anything wrong with that in this case - I still have both BE albums in rotation. Waite and Cain continue their songwriting collaborations from their Babys days, with Schon contributing on many of the tracks on the album. The combination of writers seems to be the key that keeps the band from sounding too much like either The Babys or Journey, but ironically enough their best-known single "When I See You Smile" was written by an external songwriter. The album is produced by Richie Zito so the production quality is slick, albiet pretty typical `80s style with big drums. The one exception is the single, which sounds like it was produced to sound the best being broadcast by an AM radio station through a 4" speaker, which, if I know the industry, it likely was.

This is an album that will likey satisfy most Babys and John Waite fans, and may even attract a few more who found The Babys a little too light. Both Bad English albums are comparable in quality and content with the second being maybe a bit harder, but they're both good enough.

Yes yes we all know the mega hit When I See You Smile. But it would be unfair to put this album into the one hit wonder basket and instead review it as a whole.

The band hits gear pretty early with Best of What I Got but after that it's pretty bad. How Possession ever became a hit I've not idea. Well, where I come from it didn't, but in the US this mob had a string of soppy power ballad hits.

The production is good but the fire goes out for most of the album. Neil Schon is a great guitarist but it was the late 80's and the guy obviously knew what he had to do for a decent paycheck. Besides, he probably wanted some revenge on Steve Perry so he really wanted to make some cash. Pity, listen to some of the guitar licks here and there is a decent hard rock album in the man. Rockin' Horse for example.

An interesting additin to the AOR landscape, and some of the music is lively. But when the whole thing has as much heft as a lettuce leaf it just doesn't get my vote. Even my devoted AOR fan girlfriend of the time only liked the one track (we all know which one).

But hey, if AOR is your bag you could do a lot worse!

To my surprise in early 1990 I heard the song "When I see you smile" -or WISYS to Waite devotees- coming from the flat above. I had bought the album about 6 months previously and had just assumed that it would be ignored as about 5 Babys and 3 Waite solo albums had been.

Waite sings on all the tracks and says Neal Schon's guitar playing is so good it's hard to believe it's a human being playing!

The band put two albums together and enjoyed touring and playing to stadium sized audiences. Waite had problems with corporate music, as a consequence the band never became a "power" in the music scene.

Bad English's self-titled debut was released in 1989. The band combined the forces of Journey members Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain with ex-Babys lead vocalist John Waite, who was best known for his 1984 hit, "Missing You." Spawning three hit singles as well as several tracks that made the rounds on album-oriented rock radio, the album was a big hit at a time when hard rock and especially power ballads were in vogue. However, like many "supergroups", such as Asia and Damn Yankees, they peaked with their debut album and their subsequent album would lead to their inevitable breakup.

Bad English has a very big production reminiscent of the era and the material presented is strong throughout. The #1 hit "When I See You Smile", with its instantly recognizable keyboard line, is one of the best power ballads of the era, and also one of many written by songwriter extraordinare Diane Warren. The power ballads "Price of Love" and "Possession" were also big hits and are nearly as memorable as "When I You See Smile." The lesser known AOR hits include the solid melodic hard rockers "Forget Me Not", "Heaven Is a 4 Letter Word", and "Best of What I Got." The remaining songs, while not nearly as memorable, are still very good, whether it's the hard rock of "Lay Down" and "Rockin' Horse", the pop-rock of "Tough Times Don't Last" and "The Restless Ones", or the closing ballad "Don't Walk Away." After this album, the band's next album Backlash was met with just that as their sound was falling out of favor to the grunge movement and gangsta rap. However, the band really put it together here and fans of good melodic hard rock will enjoy this.

This is by far the better Bad English cd although little known. Really enjoyed it, diverse as the band was splitting in two different directions. Opening song memorable for the nah, nahs alone. Solid cd.

I have been collecting records and CD's of The Baby, Journey & John Waite. When I first heard about this group I thought it's just one of those experimental albums that most great artists do. The collaboration of ex-Journey Neal Schon, Jonathan Cain and ex-The Baby John Waite is truly amazing. Neal Schon's guitar blend still spells a Journey-ish thing but clean and a bit agressive. John Waite's unique rock voice is really wonderful. Generally, the band is great! I would recommend much to rock fanatics to get this 2nd album of Bad English. It's one star better than their first. Try also Neil Schon & Jonathan Cain's solo albums. Cain's pretty good in New Age genre.

Bad English primary attraction to myself is Neal Schon, one of the truly great guitarists. People mention Journey, but the group and music is not very comparable, except for Neal. Schon is always good, his playing is not over powering like some guitarists, but his solos are impressive, unique and melodic. The rest of the band are accomplished muscicians which makes a very easy on the ears style of rock - comparable more to Toto sound. The only reason I don't give 5 out of 5 is the songwriting - nothing special there.

The only problem with this alblum is that it was released in 1991. By then the new grunge rock had seeped into the MTV brains of the new youth generation and the rock of the 1980s was old news. No one really cared. Except for people, like me, who will always love the music of the 1980s. If you loved Journey and/or the Babys then this is a must buy. It is just as strong as Bad English's first alblum. But, due to it being the 1990s got very little airplay.

While I gave it 5 stars (cause I love Bad English) I have to say that unlike other reviewers, I don't think this CD is better than Bad English's debut. NO SONG can top "Possession" or "Forget Me Not", though "Straight to Your Heart" comes very close. That song, as well as "Pray for Rain" are the only songs that I really like on this entire CD. I think most of the songs sound similiar. Another great group to check out that reminds me a lot of Bad English is "The Storm". Their debut came out in 1991. If you can find it and it is still in print, you really need to get it.